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The original ''Star Wars'' trilogy is if not one of the most iconic movies to ever be released, '''However in ''The Empire Strikes Back'' there is a line that was filmed, yet never used in the original''', one that was used to bamboozle the original cast to prevent them from knowing the actual twist of the movie, this being Darth Vader saying "You don't know the truth, Obi-Wan killed your father" however the filming of Darth Vader saying this is lost.
''Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back'' (1980) is the second - and generally considered the best - film in the original ''Star Wars'' trilogy, and contains one of the most iconic plot twists in movie history: that villain Darth Vader is, in fact, the father of hero Luke Skywalker. Vader reveals this himself to Luke in a climactic scene, in the finished film intoning simply that "I am your father." However, in an effort to avoid spoiling the twist prior to the film's release, the producers & director inserted an entirely different twist into the script for the scene. '''The footage of this alternate take is currently lost.'''


==Background==
==Background==
In ''The Empire Strikes Back'' which was released in 1980, to avoid the cast from knowing the plot twist of the Iconic "I am your Father" Irvin Kershner and George Lucas had the cast read different lines and then dubbed it with James Earl Jones to be of course the iconic "I am your Father" line.
As the log-awaited sequel to the blockbuster hit ''Star Wars IV: A New Hope'', ''Empire'' was naturally subjwct to intense media and fan scrutiny. Rumours of a juicy plot twist in the making had begun to circulate well in advance of filming the final scene, and Lucas & co feared a leak to the extent that they refused to divulge it even to the cast until it was absolutely necessary, and then only to those involved in filming. As part of this effort, the scripted reveal was "You don't know the truth - ''Obi-Wan'' killed your father." Actor Mark Hamill duly reacted to this in the full belief that it was the final version.  


The original line "Obi-Wan killed your Father" was thought to be by the entire acting cast to be the plot twist, until the first screening in which it was revealed to be otherwise, Mark Hamill (known for playing Luke Skywalker) was the first to be told about the plot twist and was told to be silent about it for one and a half years due to not wanting anyone to know about it and if they did they'd know it was Mark Hamill who leaked it.<ref>[https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1264661085459628032?lang=en Mark Hamill's tweet about him keeping the plot twist a secret for over a year.] Retrieved 29 Mar '22</ref>
It was only later, on a carefully closed set, that Hamill was told what the actual line would be, and filming commenced immediately afterwards; this had the added bonus of helping give his performance the air of genuinely shocked bewilderment that helps make the scene so memorable.
 
Hamill and Vader's voice actor, James Earl Jones (who fortunately recorded his lines entirely separately from the rest of the production) were the only two castmembers to know the true twist, and managed to keep their secret successfully for the entire one and a half years prior to the film's premiere. According to Hamil, this was under stern warning from the producers, who pointed out that if the news ever did leak, they'd know ''exactly'' who must be responsible.<ref>[https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1264661085459628032?lang=en Mark Hamill's tweet about him keeping the plot twist a secret for over a year.] Retrieved 29 Mar '22</ref>


==Graham Norton Show Interview==
==Graham Norton Show Interview==
In ''The Graham Norton Show'' in 2017 to hype up the new sequel of that being ''Star Wars: The Last Jedi'' Mark Hamill revealed the original line and the cast's reactions, including Harrison Ford's reaction being "Hey kid, you didn't fucking tell me that" (used for historical accuracy).
In ''The Graham Norton Show'' in 2017 as part of the prmotional tour for ''Star Wars: The Last Jedi'', Hamill revealed the original line and the cast's surprised reactions at the premiere, notably including Harrison Ford: "Hey kid, you didn't f***ing tell me that."


==Availability==
==Availability==
However, the original authentic audio clip of the original line other than a poorly made reconstruction of it is lost, and the whereabouts and fate of the audio clip are unknown, It is possible it could be in an unedited version of ''Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back'', however, the likely-hood of this being true is currently unknown, and it is possible that it could've been thrown away years ago, so it might be possible that this line is possible forever lost.
The version of the scene containing the decoy line - along with any audio of Jones recording it - is currently lost, rather surprisingly given its key spot in Star Wars history. Given which it is possible the film/audio still exists in a Lucasfilm/Disney vault, waiting for the right moment to be released.


==Gallery==
==Gallery==
===Images===
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DarthVader original I am Your Father Luke (lost).png|A Screenshot of the iconic "I am your Father" scene in the film.
DarthVader original I am Your Father Luke (lost).png|A Screenshot of the iconic "I am your Father" scene as released.
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Revision as of 15:36, 20 January 2023

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The film's theatrical poster.

Status: Lost

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) is the second - and generally considered the best - film in the original Star Wars trilogy, and contains one of the most iconic plot twists in movie history: that villain Darth Vader is, in fact, the father of hero Luke Skywalker. Vader reveals this himself to Luke in a climactic scene, in the finished film intoning simply that "I am your father." However, in an effort to avoid spoiling the twist prior to the film's release, the producers & director inserted an entirely different twist into the script for the scene. The footage of this alternate take is currently lost.

Background

As the log-awaited sequel to the blockbuster hit Star Wars IV: A New Hope, Empire was naturally subjwct to intense media and fan scrutiny. Rumours of a juicy plot twist in the making had begun to circulate well in advance of filming the final scene, and Lucas & co feared a leak to the extent that they refused to divulge it even to the cast until it was absolutely necessary, and then only to those involved in filming. As part of this effort, the scripted reveal was "You don't know the truth - Obi-Wan killed your father." Actor Mark Hamill duly reacted to this in the full belief that it was the final version.

It was only later, on a carefully closed set, that Hamill was told what the actual line would be, and filming commenced immediately afterwards; this had the added bonus of helping give his performance the air of genuinely shocked bewilderment that helps make the scene so memorable.

Hamill and Vader's voice actor, James Earl Jones (who fortunately recorded his lines entirely separately from the rest of the production) were the only two castmembers to know the true twist, and managed to keep their secret successfully for the entire one and a half years prior to the film's premiere. According to Hamil, this was under stern warning from the producers, who pointed out that if the news ever did leak, they'd know exactly who must be responsible.[1]

Graham Norton Show Interview

In The Graham Norton Show in 2017 as part of the prmotional tour for Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Hamill revealed the original line and the cast's surprised reactions at the premiere, notably including Harrison Ford: "Hey kid, you didn't f***ing tell me that."

Availability

The version of the scene containing the decoy line - along with any audio of Jones recording it - is currently lost, rather surprisingly given its key spot in Star Wars history. Given which it is possible the film/audio still exists in a Lucasfilm/Disney vault, waiting for the right moment to be released.

Gallery

Images

Footage

The iconic "I am your Father" scene.

The poorly made reconstruction of the scene with the alternate line.

The Mark Hamill interview on The Graham Norton Show that mentions the alternate line.

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