The Incel Project (partially found documentary series; 2008-2012)

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Status: Partially Found

The Incel Project was a TV-MA rated, original documentary series released from 2008-2012.[1] It was being made by an unknown person with the email,[2] possibly a member or lurker of the feminist incel forum: Incel Support at The doc was featured in the "original series" section of (now defunct), a seemingly curated section of the site. The documentary's homepage was (now defunct). Non-draft or non-final-cut episodes appear to be straight interviews and often exceeded 20 minutes. The series was released as a work-in-progress to be assembled into a condensed final cut documentary, perhaps with other footage.[3] At least 2 different drafts of a final cut were also uploaded to and released.[4] Almost all footage associated with this doc series is lost.

Background and Contents[edit | edit source]

In 1997, Alana created the Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project as an academic project and email listserv to fuel academic research into involuntary singledom. This culminated in a series of academic papers by the sociologists Denise Donnelly, Elizabeth Burgess, and Laura Carpenter, among others. This feminist listserv eventually transformed into a full-blown web forum using conventional forum software called in 2004. moved to in 2006. closed in 2008, and succeeded it that same year, with a subtitle of, "Incel Support". Someone named, Kaycee led this particular iteration of incel forums. It is likely that is the forum most associated with this particular documentary.

Author Talmer Shockley is featured in this documentary and may have been a user or lurker of Laura Carpenter is also featured. A similar forum that existed at the time, "", also had its own popular documentary.

The documentary appears to be shot from a social-justice and medical perspective. Content is mostly dry and clinical, and included are highly topical discussions about mental health, the stigma of inceldom, life as an incel, and "coming out" as an incel.

A year after this documentary stalled, in 2013, had a server crash, and most posts were lost.

Reception and Cancellation[edit | edit source]

Various forums discussed the doc before and after development.[5][6][7] One of the forum reviews was positive and talked about a Laura Carpenter interview. They said she talks about involuntary celibacy leading to more involuntary celibacy since the individual's self-esteem is lowered the longer he or she lives with it, and possible partners being turned off by the seeming oddity of an older virgin.

Production halted sometimes between 2012-2014. In 2014, a forum user of a separate forum called (pick-up-artist named Elliot Rodger went on a shooting spree in the name of self-professed involuntary singledom. This event may have precipitated the cancellation of the release of this documentary, even though IncelSupport denied Elliot Rodger was an active member of their forum. However, the series was removed from for unknown reasons at least two months before the shooting, and perhaps the director simply gave up on the project for other reasons.[8]

Unreleased Final Cut[edit | edit source]

Two drafts of the final cut were released. However, from Webarchive, it is unclear whether a final cut was released or not.

Availability[edit | edit source]

Most info from the web series is available from Internet Archive snapshots of the channel on Only segments of 2 interviews survive, and not the full footage of those 2 interviews that were released. These found segments contain psychologist and advocate for love-shy men named Brian Gilmartin, as well as a segment of an interview of author Talmer Shockley. Outside of the Gilmartin and Shockley footage, the rest is lost.

There have been efforts to preserve content before it shut down in 2015. Efforts to find these documentaries in archives have not come to anything as of February 2020.

Possible ledes[edit | edit source]

Possible people to contact for the lost footage include the author Talmer Shockley, Sogwa (the black female of the film who now publicly leads a Maryland Singles group on Meetup), or Laura Carpenter. What would help the most is the name of the person who actually created it, who is unknown.

There is link on a german forum to a Youtube channel which used to possibly contain the full documentary.

This Youtube link is now dead, but the channel is still up and appears to have changed by the person who possibly created the original documentary. The channel now is about a closed kickboxing gym in Petersburg Virginia which was called 9round. It is possibly the former owner or media manager of that business made the documentary.

Episodes[edit | edit source]

# Episode Title Runtime Release Date Status
1 Dr. Gilmartin 16:57 June 28th, 2008 Partially Found
2 IncelSupport Member, 40 14:29 July 22nd, 2008 Partially Found
3 IncelSupport Member, Mid-30s 22:06 October 1st, 2008 Lost
4 Two Friends 12:18 June 26th, 2008 Lost
5 Texas Interview 38:07 July 27th, 2009 Lost
6 IncelSupport Member, early-40s 21:03 Sept 7th, 2009 Lost
7 College Student 47:55 Oct 26th, 2009 Lost
8 Gay Man, late-40s 10:37 Jan 6th, 2011 Lost
9 IncelSupport Member, Late-30s 18:43 Nov 30th, 2011 Lost
10 IncelSupport Member, Late-30s 15:37 Jan 29th, 2012 Lost
11 Draft #1[4] ? ? Lost
12 Draft #2[4] ? ? Lost
13 Final Cut ? ? Existence Unconfirmed

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Dr. Gilmartin[edit | edit source]

Clip from Dr. Gilmartin (second gen copy).
Clip from Dr. Gilmartin (third gen copy).

Incel Support Member, 40[edit | edit source]

Clip from Incel Support Member, 40 (second gen copy).
Clip from Incel Support Member, 40 (third gen copy).

External Link[edit | edit source]

References[edit | edit source]