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On October 5th, 2003, grizzly bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were mauled to death by a grizzly bear while camping in Katmai National Park. '''''Six minutes of audio''''' recorded during the attack were subsequently found on the couple's video camera (albeit with the lens cap still on), none of which has ever been released to the public.


On the 5th of October, 2003, grizzly bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were mauled to death by a grizzly bear while camping in Katmai National Park; 6 minutes of audio recorded during the attack were subsequently found on the couple's video camera (albeit with the lens cap still on), none of which has ever been released to the public (though, what is assumed to be a very convincing fake of the first 2 minutes ''did'' show up online in the years following the incident and is believed by some to be genuine).<ref>[https://mega.co.nz/#!3IJhARgZ!UHhjQoMsayMdGabVyMUzkObyZQxpMl6dFMWAlhVb6vE MEGA mirror of the alleged (presumed fake) first 2 minutes.]Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014</ref> According to Alaska State Trooper Chris Hill (who was there when the tape was discovered and who has, incidentally, heard the death audio in its entirety), the 6 minute recording "starts while he's being mauled and ends while he's being mauled"; Hill also revealed that the recording abruptly cuts out, due to the end of the tape being reached, suggesting that it otherwise "probably would have captured the whole thing."<ref>[http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mauling-sounds-captured-on-tape/ CBS News article on the incident, containing quotes from Alaska State Trooper Chris Hill; 08 Oct 2003.]Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.</ref>
==Audio Description==
 
According to Alaska State Trooper Chris Hill, who was there when the tape was discovered and had heard the whole recording, it ''"starts while he's being mauled and ends while he's being mauled"''.
Treadwell, who had spent the past 13 summers living with the bears of Katmai National Park (and who had documented upwards of 100 hours of footage over said period) had risen to fame a few years prior to his death and was interviewed on ''The Late Show with David Letterman'' in 2001, during which Letterman suggested (with disturbingly accurate foresight) the possibility of one day reading a newspaper headline that Treadwell had been eaten by a bear, Treadwell shaking off the comment and denying the likelihood of such an event. Huguenard, (who was comparatively much less confident around bears than Treadwell) had apparently expressed concerns several times during their fatal trip; ultimately, it was she who initiated the recording of Treadwell's final moments (forgetting to remove the lens cap in her haste), after Treadwell presumably prompted her to turn the camera on upon noticing the approaching bear.


In 2005, renowned German director Werner Herzog released a documentary film on Treadwell titled ''Grizzly Man''; during the filming of said documentary, Herzog was granted access to the audio by Jewel Palovak (Treadwell's ex-girlfriend, who had been given the tape by authorities, along with various other possessions of his), with Herzog's reaction being caught on film and shown in ''Grizzly Man'' (the audio itself was, of course, not included). After listening to the full recording, Herzog went on to suggest to Palovak that she destroy the tape, lest it become the "white elephant in [her] room" for the rest of her life; Palovak has since admitted that she did not destroy the tape, instead choosing to store it in her safe deposit box; she claims to have never listened to the recording and hopes that she never does.
Hill also revealed that the recording abruptly cuts out, due to the end of the tape being reached, suggesting that it otherwise '''probably would have captured the whole thing.'''<ref>[http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mauling-sounds-captured-on-tape/ CBS News article on the incident, containing quotes from Alaska State Trooper Chris Hill; 08 Oct 2003.] Retrieved 18 Oct '14</ref>


Kevin 'The Bearman' Sanders of Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures (who has been investigating the incident for years and who has since provided extensive documentation on his findings) claims that the aforementioned 2 minute clip is indeed fake, citing differences between it and the actual audio (which he alleges to have heard the ''real'' first 2 minutes of and which he has partially transcribed on his website).<ref>[http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html Kevin Sanders' Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures' 'Night of the Grizzly' page on Timothy Treadwell.]Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.</ref>
==Background==
Timothy Treadwell had spent the past 13 summers living with the bears of Katmai National Park and had documented upwards of 100 hours of footage over the said period. He had risen to fame a few years prior to his death.


== References ==
He was interviewed on ''The Late Show with David Letterman'' in 2001, during which Letterman suggested (with disturbingly accurate foresight) the possibility of one day reading a newspaper headline that Treadwell had been eaten by a bear. Treadwell shook off the comment and denied the likelihood of such an event.
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== External links ==
Amie Huguenard - who was comparatively much less confident around bears than Treadwell - had apparently expressed concerns several times during their fatal trip.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCi4QgPoHZE A clip of Treadwell's 2001 appearance on ''The Late Show with David Letterman'' (taken from ''Grizzly Man'') via YouTube; 20 May 2007.]Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.</ref>
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8MjDyfcMmU Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film ''Grizzly Man'', via YouTube; 31 Jul 2012.]Last retrieved 18 Oct 2014.</ref>


Ultimately, it was Huguenard who initiated the recording of Treadwell's final moments (forgetting to remove the lens cap in her haste), after Treadwell presumably prompted her to turn the camera on upon noticing the approaching bear.


==Fake Online Clip==
What is assumed to be a very convincing fake of the first two minutes ''did'' show up online in the years following the incident and is believed by some to be genuine.


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However, Kevin 'The Bearman' Sanders of Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures (who has been investigating the incident for years and who has since provided extensive documentation on his findings) claims that the aforementioned clip is fake, citing differences between it and the actual audio (which he alleges to have heard the real first two minutes of and which he has partially transcribed on his website).<ref>[http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html Kevin Sanders' Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures page on Timothy Treadwell.] Retrieved 18 Oct '14</ref>


==UPDATE: 1:51 CLIP CONFIRMED FAKE (10 Jan '13)==
==Use for Documentary==
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|After doing some additional research on the incident, and having personal correspondence with Kevin <span style="display: none;"> </span>Sanders (who has investigated the incident since the beginning, and who has heard a portion of the real tape), I believe the "leaked" 1:51 clip to be fake. According to Kevin, this audio is the same old fake audio that has been floating around for years.


As you can read in the transcript of the tape,<ref><span style="display: none;"> </span>[http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html The Timothy Treadwell page on Kevin Sanders' website, featuring a transcript of the tape.] Retrieved 10 Jan '13.</ref> found on Kevin's website, the first sounds heard are Amie asking if it's "still out there". The next voice heard is Tim yelling "get out here, I'm getting killed out here" (this part is true to the above audio, but many inconsistencies remain). In the above clip, we never hear that first line from Amie.
During the production of said documentary, Herzog was granted access to the audio by Jewel Palovak (Treadwell's ex-girlfriend, who had been given the tape by authorities, along with various other possessions of his), with Herzog's reaction shown on screen (the audio itself was, of course, not included). After listening to the full recording, Herzog went on to suggest to Palovak that she destroy the tape, lest it becomes the ''"white elephant in [her] room"'' for the rest of her life.


A tent zipper is then heard, as well as the tent flap opening (both of which are unheard in the above audio)'' before'' Amie yells at Tim to "play dead", later telling him to "fight back" after Tim states that playing dead isn't working (this statement is also unheard in the above audio). Note that in the same audio clip, Amie says "play dead" ''right ''after Tim yells for her to go to his aid; in the real audio, the tent is first heard unzipping and opening before Amie begins yelling. Rain hitting the tent is also said to be ''clearly ''heard during this part, which you do not hear in the faked audio.
Palovak has since admitted that she did not destroy the tape, instead choosing to store it in her safe deposit box; she claims to have never listened to the recording and hopes that she never does.<ref>[http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/grizzly-man-tim-treadwell-death-bears-alaska/ Radar Online article on the ninth anniversary of the incident; 05 Oct 2012.] Retrieved 18 Oct '14</ref>


After this, the bear is said to have been startled off momentarily, during which time a short conversation ensued between Amie and Tim as to whether or not the bear was gone for good, moments before the bear returned. This conversation, again, is completely missing from the faked audio. Kevin has also stated that the bear was "nearly silent" throughout the entire recording, though it can be heard grunting and roaring in the fake clip quite frequently.
==External Link==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8MjDyfcMmU Werner Herzog's 2005 documentary film ''Grizzly Man'', via YouTube; 31 Jul 2012.] Retrieved 18 Oct '14


Additionally, according to the transcript, right after Tim asks Amie to hit the bear, she yells "go away" before the sound of the frying pan hitting it is heard. This line, as well as the sounds of the frying pan hitting the bear, (like many sounds in the 1:51 clip), are also missing, confirming it a fraud.
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Werner Herzog listening to the tape in Grizzly Man.

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On October 5th, 2003, grizzly bear enthusiast Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were mauled to death by a grizzly bear while camping in Katmai National Park. Six minutes of audio recorded during the attack were subsequently found on the couple's video camera (albeit with the lens cap still on), none of which has ever been released to the public.

Audio Description

According to Alaska State Trooper Chris Hill, who was there when the tape was discovered and had heard the whole recording, it "starts while he's being mauled and ends while he's being mauled".

Hill also revealed that the recording abruptly cuts out, due to the end of the tape being reached, suggesting that it otherwise probably would have captured the whole thing.[1]

Background

Timothy Treadwell had spent the past 13 summers living with the bears of Katmai National Park and had documented upwards of 100 hours of footage over the said period. He had risen to fame a few years prior to his death.

He was interviewed on The Late Show with David Letterman in 2001, during which Letterman suggested (with disturbingly accurate foresight) the possibility of one day reading a newspaper headline that Treadwell had been eaten by a bear. Treadwell shook off the comment and denied the likelihood of such an event.

Amie Huguenard - who was comparatively much less confident around bears than Treadwell - had apparently expressed concerns several times during their fatal trip.

Ultimately, it was Huguenard who initiated the recording of Treadwell's final moments (forgetting to remove the lens cap in her haste), after Treadwell presumably prompted her to turn the camera on upon noticing the approaching bear.

Fake Online Clip

What is assumed to be a very convincing fake of the first two minutes did show up online in the years following the incident and is believed by some to be genuine.

However, Kevin 'The Bearman' Sanders of Yellowstone Outdoor Adventures (who has been investigating the incident for years and who has since provided extensive documentation on his findings) claims that the aforementioned clip is fake, citing differences between it and the actual audio (which he alleges to have heard the real first two minutes of and which he has partially transcribed on his website).[2]

Use for Documentary

In 2005, renowned German director Werner Herzog released a documentary film on Treadwell titled Grizzly Man.

During the production of said documentary, Herzog was granted access to the audio by Jewel Palovak (Treadwell's ex-girlfriend, who had been given the tape by authorities, along with various other possessions of his), with Herzog's reaction shown on screen (the audio itself was, of course, not included). After listening to the full recording, Herzog went on to suggest to Palovak that she destroy the tape, lest it becomes the "white elephant in [her] room" for the rest of her life.

Palovak has since admitted that she did not destroy the tape, instead choosing to store it in her safe deposit box; she claims to have never listened to the recording and hopes that she never does.[3]

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