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Bob (right) and Larry (left).

Status: Lost

Before the release of their feature film, Jonah: a VeggieTales Movie, Big Idea made plans to create another feature film called The Bob & Larry Movie. The film was planned for a 2005 theatrical release, however, it was soon scrapped due to Big Idea going bankrupt in mid-2003. The Bob & Larry Movie would have been distributed by Artisan Entertainment, the distributor of Jonah. According to Big Idea founder and writer, Phil Vischer, they had about 10 people working on the film before cancelling it.

Around 2004, Phil Vischer stated on his website that both The Bob & Larry Movie and another script that he wrote at the time, The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: a VeggieTales Movie, were being considered for relaunch.^[1] Eventually, The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything was put into production, and was released in January 2008. Phil had also stated that The Bob & Larry Movie would have been put back into production, had The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything performed well at the box office.^[2] However, the film made about $13 million off of its $15 million budget.^[3]

Plot

The film would have begun with a brief synopsis of how talking vegetables were involved in world history, these events being described as a "rare, but recurring phenomenon". One example shown would have been tomb paintings of a pharaoh consulting with a leek.^[4]

Before they met and developed VeggieTales together, Bob the Tomato would be working in local TV news hosting a segment called "Farm Report", while Larry the Cucumber would work as a tester at a factory that makes hats for chickens (on account of the fact that his head was chicken-sized).^[5] Bob would make a report on the chicken hat factory, and both would meet up after Bob noticed another talking vegetable working there.^[6]

The film also would have featured human characters. The film starred a boy named Dexter, and Bob and Larry would have lived in his nightstand.^[7] The relationship between Dexter and his father would mirror Bob's own moral dilemma between relationships (being a good friend to Larry) and accomplishments (his dream of becoming a TV newsman).^[8]

The villain would have been the head of a soup factory, Hagenmeier Soup. Cranky that kids are more interested in French fries than soup, he would kidnap Larry after seeing Bob's news report on the chicken hat factory. He would then experiment on Larry to learn how vegetables talk so he could create vegetable spokespeople for his soup, all while the other veggies mount a rescue from the factory.^[9]^[10]

Aside from these details, not much else is known about the plot.

Known People Who Worked on the Film

Tod Carter - Story Supervision

Philip Dimitriadis - Concept Art

Michael Spooner - Concept Art

Joe Spadaford - Concept Art

Chuck Volmer - Concept art

Daniel López Muñoz - Concept art

Keith Lango - CG Supervisor ^[11]

Ameake Owens - Producer

Marc Vulcano

Luis Contreras

Availability

Although no video footage of the movie, if any, has been released, former Big Idea director Brian K. Roberts confirmed that the 3D model for the villain was re-used in Dr. Jiggle and Mr. Sly, a segment in the 2004 VeggieTales episode A Snoodle's Tale.^[12]

Several pieces of concept art and a color script have been leaked online. Phil Vischer has stated that he still has the full script for the movie, but has no plans on releasing it to the public as the script currently belongs to NBCUniversal.^[13]

On March 28th, 2019, it was announced that Universal was in discussions about possibly doing another VeggieTales movie. Before April 23rd, it was unknown if this was a revival of The Bob & Larry Movie or a completely new film.^[14] On April 23, 2019, Phil Vischer confirmed that the new VeggieTales movie was not The Bob & Larry Movie and that he will be going with another idea if the film does get greenlit.^[15]

On March 21st, 2021, Joe Spadaford uploaded more pieces of concept art on his ArtStation portfolio.^[16]

Since May 29th, 2021, Phil Vischer has revealed several plot details about the film on his Twitter account.

Gallery

Videos

Video by Mr. Cow on the film.

Snippet from an interview with Keith Lango talking about the film.

Dr. Jiggle and Mr. Sly, a VeggieTales segment that features a model of the villain at 5:16 and 6:51.

Concept Art

Part of the color script, and the script itself.
Part of the color script (1/3).
Part of the color script (2/3).
Part of the color script (3/3).
Several pieces of concept art for the soup factory being shown to Big Idea employees.
Several pieces of concept art by Joe Spadaford.
Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (1/4).
Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (2/4).
Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (3/4).
Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (4/4).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (1/6).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (2/6).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (3/6).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (4/6).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (5/6).
Concept art by Joe Spadaford (6/6).
Concept art by Michael Spooner (1/2).
Concept art by Michael Spooner (2/2).

Sources

References

↑ Phil Vischer explaining his two feature film scripts. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21
↑ Blog post by Phil Vischer. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21
↑ Box office report for The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (1/6). Retrieved 29 May '21
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (2/6). Retrieved 29 May '21
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (3/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24
↑ Joe Spadaford's Tweet about Dexter. Retrieved 01 Sept. '19
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (4/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (5/6). Retrieved 18 Jan. '24
↑ Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (6/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24
↑ Interview with Keith Lango. Retrieved 08 Feb. '24
↑ TikTok comment by Brian K. Roberts. Retrieved 12 Feb. '22
↑ Phil Vischer's Twitter post about the B&L movie script. Retrieved 24 Sept. '18
↑ Announcement of new VeggieTales movie. Retrieved 28 Mar. '19
↑ Phil Vischer debunking the rumor that the new VeggieTales movie is The Bob & Larry Movie. Retrieved 23 Apr. '19
↑ Joe Spadaford's official VeggieTales portfolio. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21

[1] Phil Vischer explaining his two feature film scripts. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21

[2] Blog post by Phil Vischer. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21

[3] Box office report for The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21

[4] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (1/6). Retrieved 29 May '21

[5] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (2/6). Retrieved 29 May '21

[6] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (3/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24

[7] Joe Spadaford's Tweet about Dexter. Retrieved 01 Sept. '19

[8] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (4/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24

[9] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (5/6). Retrieved 18 Jan. '24

[10] Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (6/6). Retrieved 08 Feb. '24

[11] Interview with Keith Lango. Retrieved 08 Feb. '24

[12] TikTok comment by Brian K. Roberts. Retrieved 12 Feb. '22

[13] Phil Vischer's Twitter post about the B&L movie script. Retrieved 24 Sept. '18

[14] Announcement of new VeggieTales movie. Retrieved 28 Mar. '19

[15] Phil Vischer debunking the rumor that the new VeggieTales movie is The Bob & Larry Movie. Retrieved 23 Apr. '19

[16] Joe Spadaford's official VeggieTales portfolio. Retrieved 26 Mar. '21

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-Before the release of their feature film, ''Jonah: a VeggieTales Movie'', BigIdea made plans to make another feature film called '''''The Bob & Larry Movie'''''. The movie was planned for a 2005 theatrical release, however, it was soon scrapped due to BigIdea going bankrupt in mid-2003, and the fact that it had human characters (which were too complicated to animate at the time). ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' was later replaced by ''The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: a VeggieTales Movie'', which was released in January 2008. ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' would’ve been distributed by Artisan, the distributor of ''Jonah''. According to BigIdea founder, Phil Vischer, they had about 10 people working on the movie before cancelling it.
+Before the release of their feature film, ''Jonah: a VeggieTales Movie'', Big Idea made plans to create another feature film called '''''The Bob & Larry Movie'''''. The film was planned for a 2005 theatrical release, however, it was soon scrapped due to Big Idea going bankrupt in mid-2003. ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' would have been distributed by Artisan Entertainment, the distributor of ''Jonah''. According to Big Idea founder and writer, Phil Vischer, they had about 10 people working on the film before cancelling it.
-Judging by an interview with Bob and Larry from 2005, it is possible that BigIdea was still thinking about making ''The Bob & Larry Movie'', or instead of making ''The Pirates who Don't Do Anything'', which they eventually ended up making.
+Around 2004, Phil Vischer stated on his website that both ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' and another script that he wrote at the time, ''The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: a VeggieTales Movie'', were being considered for relaunch.<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20040911181352/http://www.philvischer.com/projects/vtfeatures.htm Phil Vischer explaining his two feature film scripts.] Retrieved 26 Mar. '21</ref> Eventually, ''The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything'' was put into production, and was released in January 2008. Phil had also stated that ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' would have been put back into production, had ''The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything'' performed well at the box office.<ref>[https://philvischer.com/news/pirates-and-huck-and-other-updates Blog post by Phil Vischer.] Retrieved 26 Mar. '21</ref> However, the film made about $13 million off of its $15 million budget.<ref>[https://bombreport.com/yearly-breakdowns/2008-2/the-pirates-who-dont-do-anything Box office report for ''The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything''.] Retrieved 26 Mar. '21</ref>
 ==Plot==
-All that’s known about the plot is that it’s about how Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber met, and how they started '''''VeggieTales''''' together. It would also feature human characters.
+The film would have begun with a brief synopsis of how talking vegetables were involved in world history, these events being described as a "rare, but recurring phenomenon". One example shown would have been tomb paintings of a pharaoh consulting with a leek.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1398750234285576196 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (1/6).] Retrieved 29 May '21</ref>
-According to BigIdea artist Joe Spadaford, the film would've starred a boy named Dexter, and Bob and Larry would've lived in his nightstand.<ref>[https://twitter.com/JoeSpadaford/status/1163922873863614467 Joe Spadaford's Twitter post about Dexter.] Retrieved 1 Sept. '19</ref> Who Dexter was, and what significance he had to the story is currently unknown.
+Before they met and developed '''''VeggieTales''''' together, Bob the Tomato would be working in local TV news hosting a segment called "Farm Report", while Larry the Cucumber would work as a tester at a factory that makes hats for chickens (on account of the fact that his head was chicken-sized).<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1398747572794281988 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (2/6).] Retrieved 29 May '21</ref> Bob would make a report on the chicken hat factory, and both would meet up after Bob noticed another talking vegetable working there.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1755062130989015516 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (3/6).] Retrieved 08 Feb. '24</ref>
+The film also would have featured human characters. The film starred a boy named Dexter, and Bob and Larry would have lived in his nightstand.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210530012944/https://twitter.com/JoeSpadaford/status/1163922873863614467 Joe Spadaford's Tweet about Dexter.] Retrieved 01 Sept. '19</ref> The relationship between Dexter and his father would mirror Bob's own moral dilemma between relationships (being a good friend to Larry) and accomplishments (his dream of becoming a TV newsman).<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1755428329589461059 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (4/6).] Retrieved 08 Feb. '24</ref>
+The villain would have been the head of a soup factory, Hagenmeier Soup. Cranky that kids are more interested in French fries than soup, he would kidnap Larry after seeing Bob's news report on the chicken hat factory. He would then experiment on Larry to learn how vegetables talk so he could create vegetable spokespeople for his soup, all while the other veggies mount a rescue from the factory.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1748048841650147523 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (5/6).] Retrieved 18 Jan. '24</ref><ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1755400252616503631 Tweet by Phil Vischer about the plot (6/6).] Retrieved 08 Feb. '24</ref>
+Aside from these details, not much else is known about the plot.
 ===Known People Who Worked on the Film===
-* Phillip Dimitriadis - Concept Art
+* Tod Carter - Story Supervision
+* Philip Dimitriadis - Concept Art
 * Michael Spooner - Concept Art
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 * Joe Spadaford - Concept Art
-* Tod Carter - Story Supervision
+* Chuck Volmer - Concept art
+* Daniel López Muñoz - Concept art
+* Keith Lango - CG Supervisor <ref>[https://youtu.be/4Pj4istJrD0?feature=shared&t=2925 Interview with Keith Lango.] Retrieved 08 Feb. '24</ref>
+* Ameake Owens - Producer
+* Marc Vulcano
+* Luis Contreras
 ==Availability==
-No video footage of the movie has been released, the only proof being concept art and a color script. Phil Vischer has stated that he still has the full script for the movie, but has no plans on releasing it to the public.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/998629567223992322 Phil Vischer's Twitter post about the B&L movie script.] Retrieved 24 Sept. '18</ref>
+Although no video footage of the movie, if any, has been released, former Big Idea director Brian K. Roberts confirmed that the 3D model for the villain was re-used in ''Dr. Jiggle and Mr. Sly'', a segment in the 2004 VeggieTales episode ''A Snoodle's Tale''.<ref>[https://imgur.com/a/ZGKEWXY TikTok comment by Brian K. Roberts.] Retrieved 12 Feb. '22</ref>
+Several pieces of concept art and a color script have been leaked online. Phil Vischer has stated that he still has the full script for the movie, but has no plans on releasing it to the public as the script currently belongs to NBCUniversal.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/998629567223992322 Phil Vischer's Twitter post about the B&L movie script.] Retrieved 24 Sept. '18</ref>
+On March 28th, 2019, it was announced that Universal was in discussions about possibly doing another VeggieTales movie. Before April 23rd, it was unknown if this was a revival of ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' or a completely new film.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1111372778039476230 Announcement of new VeggieTales movie.] Retrieved 28 Mar. '19</ref> On April 23, 2019, Phil Vischer confirmed that the new VeggieTales movie was not ''The Bob & Larry Movie'' and that he will be going with another idea if the film does get greenlit.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1120797257392173056 Phil Vischer debunking the rumor that the new VeggieTales movie is ''The Bob & Larry Movie''.] Retrieved 23 Apr. '19</ref>
+On March 21st, 2021, Joe Spadaford uploaded more pieces of concept art on his ArtStation portfolio.<ref>[https://artstation.com/artwork/w6b2PO Joe Spadaford's official VeggieTales portfolio.] Retrieved 26 Mar. '21</ref>
-On March 28, 2019, it was announced that there's a new VeggieTales movie in development at Universal. Before April 23, it was unknown if this was a revival of the ''Bob and Larry Movie'' or a completely new film.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1111372778039476230 Announcement of new VeggieTales movie.] Retrieved 28 Mar. '19</ref> On April 23, 2019, Phil Vischer confirmed that the new VeggieTales movie is not ''The Bob and Larry Movie'' and will be a new movie that he is working on.<ref>[https://twitter.com/philvischer/status/1120797257392173056 Phil Vischer debunking the rumor that the new VeggieTales movie is ''The Bob and Larry Movie''.] Retrieved 23 Apr. '19</ref>
+Since May 29th, 2021, Phil Vischer has revealed several plot details about the film on his Twitter account.
 ==Gallery==
-<gallery mode=packed heights=175px>
+===Videos===
-B&L Concept Art.jpeg|Concept art.
+{{Video|perrow  =3
-B&L Color Script 1.jpeg|The entire color script.
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+  |description1 =Video by [https://www.youtube.com/@MrCow Mr. Cow] on the film.
+  |service2     =youtube
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+  |description2 =Snippet from an interview with Keith Lango talking about the film.
+  |service3     =youtube
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+  |description3 =''Dr. Jiggle and Mr. Sly'', a VeggieTales segment that features a model of the villain at [https://youtu.be/cwnSGeCSBI8?t=316 5:16] and [https://youtu.be/cwnSGeCSBI8?t=411 6:51].
+}}
+===Concept Art===
+<gallery mode="packed" heights="175px">
 B&L Color Script 2.jpeg|Part of the color script, and the script itself.
-B&L Color Script 3.jpeg|Part of the color script.
+BLColorScript1.png|Part of the color script (1/3).
-Steam.jpg|Concept art (1/9).
+BLColorScript2.png|Part of the color script (2/3).
-DARK.jpg|Concept art (2/9).
+BLColorScript.png|Part of the color script (3/3).
-B&L3.jpg|Concept art (3/9).
+B&LMovieMeeting.png|Several pieces of concept art for the soup factory being shown to Big Idea employees.
-B&L4.jpg|Concept art (4/9).
+BobAndLarryConceptArt.jpg|Several pieces of concept art by Joe Spadaford.
-B&L5.jpg|Concept art (5/9).
+Steam.jpg|Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (1/4).
-location7.jpg|Concept art (6/9).
+DARK.jpg|Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (2/4).
-B&LMikeSpooner.jpg|Concept art (7/9).
+B&L3.jpg|Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (3/4).
-l12.jpg|Concept art (8/9).
+B&L4.jpg|Concept art by Philip Dimitriadis (4/4).
-l10.jpg|Concept art. (9/9).
+B&L5.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (1/6).
+location7.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (2/6).
+l12.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (3/6).
+l10.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (4/6).
+BobAndLarryConcept1.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (5/6).
+BobAndLarryConcept2.jpg|Concept art by Joe Spadaford (6/6).
+B&LMikeSpooner.jpg|Concept art by Michael Spooner (1/2).
+BobAndLarryConcept3.jpg|Concept art by Michael Spooner (2/2).
 </gallery>
 =Sources=
 *https://ign.com/articles/2002/11/26/the-veggies-strike-back
 *https://philvischer.com/news/what-happened-to-big-idea-part-7/
-*https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/philvischer.html
+*https://christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/philvischer.html
 *https://variety.com/2002/film/markets-festivals/artisan-harvests-2nd-veggietales-1117876575/amp/
-*https://www.animationmagazine.net/features/11_26_02.html
+*https://animationmagazine.net/features/11_26_02.html
 *http://philsartportfolio.blogspot.com/
 *http://philsdesign.blogspot.com/2009/
+*http://web.archive.org/web/20070814000102/http://www.todcarter.com/bio.html
+*https://michaelspoonerart.com/big-idea-s-veggie-tales
 *http://joesartwork.blogspot.com/2008/12/
-*http://web.archive.org/web/20070814000102/http://www.todcarter.com/bio.html
-*http://web.archive.org/web/20050316224354/www.cbn.com/entertainment/Screen/Harper_VeggieTales.asp
-*https://www.michaelspoonerart.com/big-idea-s-veggie-tales
 *http://joeslayoutportfolio.blogspot.com/2009/10/location-design.html
+==See Also==
+* [[Bob & Larry Family Fun (lost content of VeggieTales DVD; 2003)]]
+* [[Dove Awards: Bob and Larry segments (partially found footage from award show; 1996-1997)]]
+* [[Duke and the Great Pie War (found online VeggieTales game; 2005)]]
+* [[GRAFx Studios (partially found production material; 1989-1993)]]
+* [[He is That Hero (found extended version of "LarryBoy: The Cartoon Adventures" theme song; early 2000s)]]
+* [[Jonah; a VeggieTales Movie (partially found deleted content of animated film; 2002)]]
+* [[Khalil and the Big Gulp (lost cancelled promotional children's book based on "Jonah: A VeggieTales Movie"; 2003)]]
+* [[Mr. Cuke's Screen Test (found "VeggieTales" animation test; 1991)]]
+* [[Os Amigos Vegetais (partially found "VeggieTales" Brazilian spin-off TV series; 2005)]]
+* [[Silly Songs with Larry Musical E-Card (lost animated e-card; 2001)]]
+* [[Take 38 (found VeggieTales promotional short; 1992)]]
+* [[Tornado Hunters (partially found Silly Song segment of VeggieTales direct-to-video series; early 2010s)]]
+* [[VeggieTales (lost radio adaptation of CGI animated series; 2006)]]
+* [[VeggieTales (found NBC TV version of CGI animated series; 2006)]]
+* [[VeggieTales (non-existent alternate joke endings to episodes of Christian children’s animated series; late 1990s-early 2000s)]]
+* [[VeggieTales (partially found radio interview discs from Christian animated children's series; late 1990s-2000s)]]
+* [[VeggieTales (partially found widescreen versions of animated children's series episodes; 2003-2004)]]
+* [[VeggieTales.com (partially found series of online games from website; 2011-2013)]]
+* [[VeggieTales at Dollywood/Silver Dollar City (partially found live shows based on animated series; 2002-2008)]]
+* [[VeggieTales Dance Party (lost material of scrapped mobile app; 2014)]]
+* [[VeggieTales Live! (partially found live shows based on animated series; 2002-2015)]]
+* [[VeggieTales/Nashville Predators (partially lost VeggieTales hockey pumpers; 2012)]]
+* [[VeggieTales: Special Edition (found magazines based on animated series; 2004-2006)]]
+* [[VeggieTales: Whale-Watching Party (partially found event kit based on animated movie; 2002)]]
+* [[VeggieTales "Where's God When I'm S-Scared?" (found original version of animated series episode; 1993)]]
+* [[VeggieTown Values (found series of VBS videos; 1998-2001)]]
+* [[Was He a Boy Like Me? (lost VeggieTales animated music video; 2006)]]
 ==References==
 {{reflist}}
-[[Category:Lost animation|Bob & Larry Movie, The]]
+[[Category:Lost animation|Bob & Larry Movie]]
-[[Category:Lost films|Bob & Larry Movie, The]]
+[[Category:Lost films|Bob & Larry Movie]]
+[[Category:Lost literature|Bob & Larry Movie]]
+[[Category:Completely lost media|Bob & Larry Movie]]

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