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==== History ====
 
==== History ====
The Beatles' company Apple Corps, had been working on an official documentary on the band's career since 1968.  With the band's legal issues and the death of member John Lennon delaying the project it wouldn't be until 1989 when the surviving members and Yoko Ono made plans to produce what would become the "Anthology" series. <ref>[https://www.soundonsound.com/people/story-beatles-anthology-project The Story Of The Beatles' Anthology Project - Sound On Sound]</ref>  During the project's production, it was decided that The Beatles would record new material for the series.
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The Beatles' company Apple Corps, had been working on an official documentary on the band's career since 1968 (then titled ''The Long and Winding Road'').  With the band's legal issues and the death of member John Lennon delaying the project it wouldn't be until 1989 when the surviving members and Yoko Ono made plans to produce what would become the "Anthology" series. <ref>[https://www.soundonsound.com/people/story-beatles-anthology-project The Story Of The Beatles' Anthology Project - Sound On Sound]</ref>  During the project's production, it was decided that The Beatles would record new material for the series.
 
   
 
   
 
In January 1994, Paul McCartney approached Yoko Ono, Lennon's widow, believing she would have some of his unused recordings. Ono gave McCartney three cassette tapes from Lennon's retirement period, one of which was found in Lennon's New York apartment with the words ''For Paul'' written in Lennon's handwriting.  The cassettes contained rough demo recordings of the songs; "Free As A Bird", "Real Love", "Grow Old With Me" (which was previously released in demo form on ''Milk and Honey'') and "Now and Then," featuring Lennon on piano and vocals. <ref>[https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/song/now-and-then/ Now And Then (song) - The Paul McCartney Project (the-paulmccartney-project.com)]</ref>
 
In January 1994, Paul McCartney approached Yoko Ono, Lennon's widow, believing she would have some of his unused recordings. Ono gave McCartney three cassette tapes from Lennon's retirement period, one of which was found in Lennon's New York apartment with the words ''For Paul'' written in Lennon's handwriting.  The cassettes contained rough demo recordings of the songs; "Free As A Bird", "Real Love", "Grow Old With Me" (which was previously released in demo form on ''Milk and Honey'') and "Now and Then," featuring Lennon on piano and vocals. <ref>[https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/song/now-and-then/ Now And Then (song) - The Paul McCartney Project (the-paulmccartney-project.com)]</ref>
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The three remaining Beatles soon began work on all demos with Jeff Lynne producing. Work on the demos began 11th February 1994 with "Free As A Bird", followed by work on "Now And Then" on 22nd June, 1994.<ref>[https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/session/anthology-sessions-3/ "The Beatles Anthology" sessions (Feb 11, 1994 - 1996) - The Paul McCartney Project (the-paulmccartney-project.com)]</ref> Work continued on "Now And Then" during the "Real Love" sessions in early February and May 1995.   
 
The three remaining Beatles soon began work on all demos with Jeff Lynne producing. Work on the demos began 11th February 1994 with "Free As A Bird", followed by work on "Now And Then" on 22nd June, 1994.<ref>[https://www.the-paulmccartney-project.com/session/anthology-sessions-3/ "The Beatles Anthology" sessions (Feb 11, 1994 - 1996) - The Paul McCartney Project (the-paulmccartney-project.com)]</ref> Work continued on "Now And Then" during the "Real Love" sessions in early February and May 1995.   
  
Producer Jeff Lynne had worked on the mono cassette demos to bring them up to a quality were they could be worked on. <ref name=":0">[https://www.soundonsound.com/people/story-beatles-anthology-project The Story Of The Beatles' Anthology Project (soundonsound.com)]</ref>  However, "Now And Then" proved more of a technical challenge, as a 60-cycle mains hum could be heard through-out the whole recording.  This was at a time before DAW based restoration software were sophisticated to deal with issues like thatThe demos were cleaned up as best as best as the software at the time would allow and recorded back to analogue tape for overdubs.<ref name="MrBlueSky">Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO. BBC. 2012</ref>
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Producer Jeff Lynne had worked on the mono cassette demos to bring them up to a quality were they could be worked on. <ref name=":0">[https://www.soundonsound.com/people/story-beatles-anthology-project The Story Of The Beatles' Anthology Project (soundonsound.com)]</ref>  "Now And Then" proved more of a technical challenge, as a 60-cycle mains hum could be heard through-out the whole recording.  Although some early DAW software was used, this was before DAW based restoration software was sophisticated enough to cleanly remove noises from audio tracksLynne cleaned the demos up the best he could and transferred to a DAT master tape.  The DAT master was transfered to analogue tape for further multitrack recording<ref>https://www.soundonsound.com/people/story-beatles-anthology-project The Story Of The Beatles' Anthology Project-Sound On Sound article from 1995 explaining the technical details of the reunion sessions.</ref><ref name="MrBlueSky">Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO. BBC. 2012</ref>
  
 
According to McCartney, the sessions for "Now And Then" were difficult.  McCartney was keen to continue work on the song, despite the audible hum, but the sessions ended with a frustrated Harrison declaring the song "fucking rubbish".  Work stopped on the recording in May 1995. <ref name="MrBlueSky">Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO. BBC. 2012</ref>
 
According to McCartney, the sessions for "Now And Then" were difficult.  McCartney was keen to continue work on the song, despite the audible hum, but the sessions ended with a frustrated Harrison declaring the song "fucking rubbish".  Work stopped on the recording in May 1995. <ref name="MrBlueSky">Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO. BBC. 2012</ref>
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The next reunion single, "Real Love" was released 4th March, 1996.  Although critically it fared better, the chart performance was still disappointing (reaching #4 in the UK and #11 in the US).  Part of the reason behind the songs performance in the UK was due to it being rejected from the BBC's Radio 1 playlist.   
 
The next reunion single, "Real Love" was released 4th March, 1996.  Although critically it fared better, the chart performance was still disappointing (reaching #4 in the UK and #11 in the US).  Part of the reason behind the songs performance in the UK was due to it being rejected from the BBC's Radio 1 playlist.   
 
   
 
   
When it came time for the third single to be released on ''Anthology 3'' in October 1996, the opening reunion song was replaced with an unreleased orchestral opening to the White Album track "Don't Pass Me By" titled "A Beginning".  Reports in the media highlighted the technical issues Lynne and The Beatles had with recording the song, but didn't rule out a future  release. <ref name=":0" />  
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When it came time for the third single to be released on ''Anthology 3'' in October 1996, the opening reunion song was replaced with an unreleased orchestral opening to the White Album track "Don't Pass Me By" titled "A Beginning".  Reports in the media highlighted the technical issues Lynne and The Beatles had with recording the song, but didn't rule out a future  release. <ref name=":0" />
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==Post ''Anthology'' Availability==
 
==Post ''Anthology'' Availability==
 
To date, no content from the overdub sessions in 1994 and 1995 have resurfaced either officially or unofficially.  The original John Lennon piano demo (with the hum), later leaked via bootlegs like  ''Miscellaneous Tracks'' (1995)<ref>https://www.discogs.com/master/1342756-John-Lennon-Miscellaneous-Tracks Miscellaneous Tracks</ref> and ''Free As A Bird (The Dakota Beatle Demos)'' (1996)<ref>https://www.discogs.com/master/705246-John-Lennon-Free-As-A-Bird-The-Dakota-Beatle-Demos Free As A Bird (The Dakota Beatle Demos)</ref>.  In 2009, a version of the cassette without the hum was circulated on the John Lennon bootleg CD ''At Home'' <ref>[https://www.discogs.com/release/4094689-John-Lennon-At-Home John Lennon – At Home (2009, CD) - Discogs]</ref>.  It has been speculated that the cleaner version was not available during the reunion sessions because it was stolen from Lennon's apartment after his death along with other cassettes and personal effects.
 
To date, no content from the overdub sessions in 1994 and 1995 have resurfaced either officially or unofficially.  The original John Lennon piano demo (with the hum), later leaked via bootlegs like  ''Miscellaneous Tracks'' (1995)<ref>https://www.discogs.com/master/1342756-John-Lennon-Miscellaneous-Tracks Miscellaneous Tracks</ref> and ''Free As A Bird (The Dakota Beatle Demos)'' (1996)<ref>https://www.discogs.com/master/705246-John-Lennon-Free-As-A-Bird-The-Dakota-Beatle-Demos Free As A Bird (The Dakota Beatle Demos)</ref>.  In 2009, a version of the cassette without the hum was circulated on the John Lennon bootleg CD ''At Home'' <ref>[https://www.discogs.com/release/4094689-John-Lennon-At-Home John Lennon – At Home (2009, CD) - Discogs]</ref>.  It has been speculated that the cleaner version was not available during the reunion sessions because it was stolen from Lennon's apartment after his death along with other cassettes and personal effects.
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==Gallery==
 
==Gallery==
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== See also ==
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===Fan recreations===
[[The Threetles (lost unreleased recordings from Beatles reunion sessions; 1990s)]]
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  |description1 =A fan-edited version of Lennon's demo, courtesy of the YT channel Bojon Productions.  This early fan recreation of the how the reunion may of sounded uses the original demo tape with the loud 60Hz hum which can be heard over Lennon's vocal track.
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  |description2 =Another fan recreation, this time using the hum-less demo first released in 2009.
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[[The Long and Winding Road (found workprint of unfinished Beatles documentary; 1970s)]]
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==See Also==
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*[[The Threetles (lost unreleased recordings from Beatles reunion sessions; 1990s)]]
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*[[The Long and Winding Road (found workprint of unfinished Beatles documentary; 1970s)]]
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*[[Help! (partially found deleted scenes from The Beatles film; 1965)]]
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*[[Revolution 1 (Take 20) (found mix of The Beatles song; 1968)]]
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*[[Late Night Line-Up (partially found Beatles "Abbey Road" special; 1969)]]
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*[[The Beatles Cartoon (partially lost skits/bumpers of animated TV series; 1965-1967)]]
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*[[Carnival of Light (lost experimental Beatles song; 1967)]]
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*[[Late Night Line-Up (partially found Beatles "Abbey Road" special; 1969)]]
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*[[A Hard Day's Day - A Day in the Life of a Beatles Tribute Band (found parody film; 2002)]]
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*[[Yellow Submarine (partially found production material for cancelled CGI remake of Beatles animated film; 2010-2011)]]
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*[[The Beatles - Cavern Club tapes (partially lost recordings of British rock band; early 1960s)]]
  
 
== References ==
 
== References ==
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[[Category:Lost music|Threetles, The]]
 
[[Category:Lost music|Now and Then]]
 
[[Category:Lost music|Now and Then]]
 
[[Category:Completely lost media|Now and Then]]
 
[[Category:Completely lost media|Now and Then]]

Latest revision as of 00:14, 24 November 2021

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The first photo taken of The Beatles reunion (1994).

Status: Lost


Now & Then (also known as "Miss You" and "I Don’t Want to Lose You") is the title of an unreleased song written by John Lennon. The song originally recorded as a demo in 1977 with further overdubs by the surviving members (Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr) of The Beatles as a possible third single to The Beatles Anthology project. However, The Beatles' work on the song ceased and The Beatles version remained unreleased.

History[edit | edit source]

John Lennon's original demo[edit | edit source]

"Now And Then" was recorded by Lennon during his "retirement" period when he was no longer a recording artist under contract and looking after his son, Sean Lennon, full time. During this time (between 1975-1980), Lennon would record a numerous rough demo recordings by himself (either on guitar or piano) with nothing more than a cassette boombox. Since these were never meant to be heard by the public, audio quality wasn't a concern. The piano demo cassette recording for "Now And Then" was recorded in 1977[1]. Lennon would come out of retirement in 1980 and many of the songs during this down period were recorded professionally on the sessions for the album; Double Fantasy . On December 8th, 1980 John Lennon would be murdered. The remainder of the songs recorded would be included on the posthumously released Milk and Honey album in 1984. The song "Now And Then" was not included in the Double Fantasy sessions and would not make it past the demo stage in Lennon's lifetime.

The Beatles version[edit | edit source]

History[edit | edit source]

The Beatles' company Apple Corps, had been working on an official documentary on the band's career since 1968 (then titled The Long and Winding Road). With the band's legal issues and the death of member John Lennon delaying the project it wouldn't be until 1989 when the surviving members and Yoko Ono made plans to produce what would become the "Anthology" series. [2] During the project's production, it was decided that The Beatles would record new material for the series.

In January 1994, Paul McCartney approached Yoko Ono, Lennon's widow, believing she would have some of his unused recordings. Ono gave McCartney three cassette tapes from Lennon's retirement period, one of which was found in Lennon's New York apartment with the words For Paul written in Lennon's handwriting. The cassettes contained rough demo recordings of the songs; "Free As A Bird", "Real Love", "Grow Old With Me" (which was previously released in demo form on Milk and Honey) and "Now and Then," featuring Lennon on piano and vocals. [3]

Recording sessions[edit | edit source]

The three remaining Beatles soon began work on all demos with Jeff Lynne producing. Work on the demos began 11th February 1994 with "Free As A Bird", followed by work on "Now And Then" on 22nd June, 1994.[4] Work continued on "Now And Then" during the "Real Love" sessions in early February and May 1995.

Producer Jeff Lynne had worked on the mono cassette demos to bring them up to a quality were they could be worked on. [5] "Now And Then" proved more of a technical challenge, as a 60-cycle mains hum could be heard through-out the whole recording. Although some early DAW software was used, this was before DAW based restoration software was sophisticated enough to cleanly remove noises from audio tracks. Lynne cleaned the demos up the best he could and transferred to a DAT master tape. The DAT master was transfered to analogue tape for further multitrack recording[6][7]

According to McCartney, the sessions for "Now And Then" were difficult. McCartney was keen to continue work on the song, despite the audible hum, but the sessions ended with a frustrated Harrison declaring the song "fucking rubbish". Work stopped on the recording in May 1995. [7]

Anthology singles and non-appearance of the third single[edit | edit source]

"Free As A Bird" was released as a single on 4th December, 1995. It was meant with mixed reviews and missed the number 1 chart spot in the UK to Michael Jackson's "Earth Song" (to which, Jackson's record company Sony sent EMI a turkey stuffed with "Free As A Bird" singles).[8]

The next reunion single, "Real Love" was released 4th March, 1996. Although critically it fared better, the chart performance was still disappointing (reaching #4 in the UK and #11 in the US). Part of the reason behind the songs performance in the UK was due to it being rejected from the BBC's Radio 1 playlist.

When it came time for the third single to be released on Anthology 3 in October 1996, the opening reunion song was replaced with an unreleased orchestral opening to the White Album track "Don't Pass Me By" titled "A Beginning". Reports in the media highlighted the technical issues Lynne and The Beatles had with recording the song, but didn't rule out a future release. [5]

Post Anthology Availability[edit | edit source]

To date, no content from the overdub sessions in 1994 and 1995 have resurfaced either officially or unofficially. The original John Lennon piano demo (with the hum), later leaked via bootlegs like Miscellaneous Tracks (1995)[9] and Free As A Bird (The Dakota Beatle Demos) (1996)[10]. In 2009, a version of the cassette without the hum was circulated on the John Lennon bootleg CD At Home [11]. It has been speculated that the cleaner version was not available during the reunion sessions because it was stolen from Lennon's apartment after his death along with other cassettes and personal effects.

In a 2009 interview, McCartney shared his interest in completing the song with Lynne and Starr, using the archived tracks that Harrison provided before his death. The only other thing needed is approval from Harrison's estate (owned by his widow, Olivia Harrison) and from Yoko Ono, the status of their stances are unknown. In 2012 McCartney talked about the song about and Harrison's rejection during the sessions the documentary about Lynne's career Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO[7].

In a 2021 interview with The New Yorker, McCartney again mentioned his wish to finish the song as a possible "future project". [12]

Fan made recreations[edit | edit source]

Since the availability of the cleaner cassette, there have been several fan edits of the song circulating on bootlegs.

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Related clips[edit | edit source]

John Lennon's original piano demo (without the hum).
A clip from the 2012 BBC documentary Mr Blue Sky: The Story of Jeff Lynne & ELO discussing the recording of the reunion songs. At 8:00 mins, Paul McCartney talks about "Now And Then".


Fan recreations[edit | edit source]

A fan-edited version of Lennon's demo, courtesy of the YT channel Bojon Productions. This early fan recreation of the how the reunion may of sounded uses the original demo tape with the loud 60Hz hum which can be heard over Lennon's vocal track.
Another fan recreation, this time using the hum-less demo first released in 2009.


See Also[edit | edit source]

References[edit | edit source]